Epidemiologist, Virologist, Medical Historian Senior Associate, Dept Epidemiology publichealth.jhu.edu Retired, Senior Advisor to the Director, NIAID, NIH Former: Virology Branch Chief, CDC; President Am Epidemiol Soc; Chairman ACAVhttps://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.socialhttps://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.social/post/3lu6idpv5c22gWow! Haven't had a chance to read the whole document (60-some pages and 738 refs!) but at first scan this is a sober "must read". There is even a great short section noting historical antecedents. One Health approaches have rarely been approached in all their complexities. Wonderful! dmm [contains quote post or other embedded content]17 Jul 2025 17:45 +0000at://did:plc:xodnub3o7sz62w6h4pbjtbil/app.bsky.feed.post/3lu6idpv5c22ghttps://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.social/post/3lt33xl6mtk2fVery depressing to hear that. How can this be happening at NIH? It defies belief. [contains quote post or other embedded content]03 Jul 2025 16:00 +0000at://did:plc:xodnub3o7sz62w6h4pbjtbil/app.bsky.feed.post/3lt33xl6mtk2fhttps://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.social/post/3lstqnalp3s2kOMG, wake me up from this nightmare. [contains quote post or other embedded content]30 Jun 2025 17:49 +0000at://did:plc:xodnub3o7sz62w6h4pbjtbil/app.bsky.feed.post/3lstqnalp3s2khttps://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.social/post/3lstoufnx4c24yes, true... [contains quote post or other embedded content]30 Jun 2025 17:17 +0000at://did:plc:xodnub3o7sz62w6h4pbjtbil/app.bsky.feed.post/3lstoufnx4c24https://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.social/post/3lstosjgldc24That's a good point. I remember first encountering Stanley Pruisner's work on prions and doubting it because it was so outside the box. And yes I think there are still doubters. That's a good thing, up to a point, as it hoilds everyone's feet to the fire. dmm [contains quote post or other embedded content]30 Jun 2025 17:16 +0000at://did:plc:xodnub3o7sz62w6h4pbjtbil/app.bsky.feed.post/3lstosjgldc24https://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.social/post/3lsoj5gcgbs2mI've had the same experience. Especially colleagues who are brilliant scientists who seem to have little trouble remaining unbiased in other contexts. One thing a bit different about this is that being a contrarian instantly puts you in the limelight d [contains quote post or other embedded content]28 Jun 2025 15:52 +0000at://did:plc:xodnub3o7sz62w6h4pbjtbil/app.bsky.feed.post/3lsoj5gcgbs2mhttps://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.social/post/3lsoix7tqm22mIndeed it does... But I do wonder after 5 years of looking for lab leak evidence without finding it, what are we to conclude? Is there a point where say we are not likely to find new actionable evidence? Scientissts have been forming concensus about these things for centuries. Now what? dmm [contains quote post or other embedded content]28 Jun 2025 15:48 +0000at://did:plc:xodnub3o7sz62w6h4pbjtbil/app.bsky.feed.post/3lsoix7tqm22mhttps://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.social/post/3lsmjbjab7s2lSo true. The problem with the "lab leak theory" is not that scientists are biased against it, just that there is no evidence for it. By all means, if evidence turns up all scientists should consider it fairly. But scientists shy away from making conclusions without facts to support them. dmm [contains quote post or other embedded content]27 Jun 2025 20:49 +0000at://did:plc:xodnub3o7sz62w6h4pbjtbil/app.bsky.feed.post/3lsmjbjab7s2lhttps://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.social/post/3lsgx65zess24Angie is on target: we should not call the lab leak theory crazy, since so many sane people believe it. Rather, there is just no factual, verifiable evidence for it, just alot of "isn't it curious that?" and "could this be coincidence?", whuch you see in every outbreak investigation. [contains quote post or other embedded content]25 Jun 2025 15:41 +0000at://did:plc:xodnub3o7sz62w6h4pbjtbil/app.bsky.feed.post/3lsgx65zess24https://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.social/post/3lsevserlj22nThis is wonderful news! The Phoenix rises from the ashes [contains quote post or other embedded content]24 Jun 2025 20:11 +0000at://did:plc:xodnub3o7sz62w6h4pbjtbil/app.bsky.feed.post/3lsevserlj22nhttps://bsky.app/profile/davidmmorens.bsky.social/post/3ls4xmksn542wThe 1793 epidemic is worth remembering. An historian claimed it forever changed the character of the American people. The first recognized case was in the home of President George Washington. He and Martha fled west to escape it, as did most of the young US government. [contains quote post or other embedded content]21 Jun 2025 16:23 +0000at://did:plc:xodnub3o7sz62w6h4pbjtbil/app.bsky.feed.post/3ls4xmksn542w